>> what canada's doing is continuing to feed the u.s. addition to fossil fuels. instead of being the kind of friend who says, "let's make a helpful intervention here," we're acting as the supplier of a drug fix to the u.s. while all the time saying, "just say no." but we keep selling it. >> but unless the chinese go back to bicycles and americans trash their suvs, there will be buyers for oil anywhere, no matter how it's found or mined. right now, canada has become the land of opportunity for oilmen. they'll tell you there's little else on the horizon. >> bob, if you take a tablet and put on it, "where is supply going to come from that we don't know about today?" and you put down all the optimistic points, that tablet will be basically blank. >> as blank as the landscape around fort mcmurray, where the world of oil exploration ends. you think the days of cheap oil are gone? >> they're gone. from what we knew as cheap oil, when i pump gasoline in ray smith's sinclair station on hinkley street in holdenville, oklahoma, 11¢ a gallon, that's gone. >> $1.50 a gallon?